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| 11 May 2002 | ValueClick banner clicks are going missing - fraud or lousy programming?... | |
![]() After adding Banners to each page, using FastClick, I then desperately began to try to get some money made from this site - at least to try to recover my costs. What a farce this is. Some banners were soaking up thousands of hits & paying nothing. After trimming this deadwood Fastclick was taking 40% of page impressions & paying $1.50 a day. The other 60% was initially sent to Easily (a domain name company), but after 100,000 hits this had paid nothing, so I added ValueClick, which initially was paying about 45 pennies on every 10,000 hits, but then mysteriously dropped to 20p - see 16 May. What a farce this is. ValueClick's reporting is so difficult to make sense of as to be almost value-less (get it?), but it does report the number of people that click on the banners. This report was only one third of what FastClick reported - 2 of out 3 clicks were going missing, and of course this is what they pay on. If done deliberately this is known as fraud, and is a criminal offence, at least in my country. It may, of course, just be lousy programming, and I need to know if the clicks are being lost from FastClick or from ValueClick, so have added 2 test banners (19 May one of them is above - no point in clicking it now as the test has finished). FastClick has excellent publisher reporting & management. If they also had some decent media sales people I would recommend them unreservedly. ValueClick I would avoid. Below are some recent stats from FastClick for you to peruse. |
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(Added 19 May - see 16 May for an interesting addition to this story) The stats accumulated:
May Day FastClick My Stats
11: 6 5
12: 35 27
13: 19 20
14: 19 17
15: 39 40
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Totals: 118 109 (92%)
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| Date | Paid Impr Total |
Paid Click Total |
CTR | Effective CPM |
Default Impr |
Default Clicks |
Default Percent |
Total Impr |
Total Clicks |
Total Earnings |
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| 05-01-02 | 5,119 | 79 | 1.54% | $0.21 | 9,616 | 34 | 65.26% | 14,735 | 113 | $1.07 | ||
| 05-02-02 | 6,345 | 100 | 1.58% | $0.24 | 10,588 | 33 | 62.53% | 16,933 | 133 | $1.55 | ||
| 05-03-02 | 6,445 | 82 | 1.27% | $0.24 | 9,729 | 38 | 60.15% | 16,174 | 120 | $1.57 | ||
| 05-04-02 | 5,020 | 62 | 1.24% | $0.25 | 9,747 | 35 | 66.01% | 14,767 | 97 | $1.28 | ||
| 05-05-02 | 4,226 | 77 | 1.82% | $0.26 | 9,191 | 34 | 68.50% | 13,417 | 111 | $1.09 | ||
| 05-06-02 | 4,987 | 71 | 1.42% | $0.31 | 10,455 | 35 | 67.70% | 15,442 | 106 | $1.55 | ||
| 05-07-02 | 5,505 | 83 | 1.51% | $0.25 | 10,979 | 39 | 66.60% | 16,484 | 122 | $1.40 | ||
| 05-08-02 | 5,993 | 63 | 1.05% | $0.24 | 10,253 | 28 | 63.11% | 16,246 | 91 | $1.45 | ||
| 05-09-02 | 5,906 | 67 | 1.13% | $0.24 | 10,319 | 36 | 63.60% | 16,225 | 103 | $1.40 | ||
| 05-10-02 | 6,669 | 86 | 1.29% | $0.32 | 10,201 | 25 | 60.47% | 16,870 | 111 | $2.11 | ||
| 05-11-02 | 911 | 11 | 1.21% | $0.21 | 1,266 | 2 | 58.15% | 2,177 | 13 | $0.19 | ||
| Total: | 57,126 | 781 | 1.37% | $0.26 | 102,344 | 339 | 64.18% | 159,470 | 1,120 | $14.66 | ||
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| On/Off | Campaign Name | Total Impr |
Total Clicks |
CTR | Type | Gross CPM |
Gross CPC |
Payout (%) |
Eff. CPM |
Earnings | Action | ||
| Alabama Gulfshores | 727 | 0 | 0.00% | CPC | $0.00 | $0.35 | 65% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||
| Countrywide Mortgage | 3,857 | 0 | 0.00% | CPC | $0.00 | $0.20 | 65% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||
| Crucial Technology | 1,675 | 1 | 0.060% | CPM | $1.95 | $0.00 | 65% | $1.27 | $2.12 | ||||
| Dovico Software | 1,837 | 3 | 0.16% | CPC | $0.00 | $0.35 | 65% | $0.37 | $0.68 | ||||
| Getsmart Mortgage [new] | 433 | 0 | 0.00% | CPC | $0.00 | $0.35 | 65% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||
| Global A | 569 | 4 | 0.70% | CPM | $1.00 | $0.00 | 65% | $0.65 | $0.37 | ||||
| Global B | 347 | 8 | 2.31% | CPM | $1.00 | $0.00 | 65% | $0.65 | $0.23 | ||||
| GMAC | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | CPC | $0.00 | $0.24 | 65% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||
| Liquid Web | 5,209 | 3 | 0.058% | CPC | $0.00 | $0.20 | 65% | $0.07 | $0.39 | ||||
| PowWeb | 6,120 | 5 | 0.082% | CPC | $0.00 | $0.18 | 65% | $0.10 | $0.58 | ||||
| Rackhost | 3,532 | 5 | 0.14% | CPC | $0.00 | $0.24 | 65% | $0.22 | $0.78 | ||||
| SpinRoom | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | CPC | $0.00 | $0.35 | 65% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||
| Sprint PCS | 3,931 | 1 | 0.025% | CPC | $0.00 | $0.30 | 65% | $0.05 | $0.20 | ||||
| Summit Group | 1,121 | 0 | 0.00% | CPC | $0.00 | $0.22 | 65% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||
| Thawte | 1,595 | 0 | 0.00% | CPC | $0.00 | $0.22 | 65% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||
| CallWave A | 787 | 6 | 0.76% | CPM | $0.50 | $0.00 | 65% | $0.33 | $0.26 | ||||
| Callwave B | 1,019 | 14 | 1.37% | CPM | $0.50 | $0.00 | 65% | $0.33 | $0.33 | ||||
| Centennial | 1,132 | 0 | 0.00% | CPC | $0.00 | $0.15 | 65% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||
| Click Here Now | 916 | 0 | 0.00% | CPM | $0.35 | $0.00 | 65% | $0.23 | $0.21 | ||||
| DirectSynergy | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | CPM | $0.30 | $0.00 | 65% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||
| FreeArcade | 2,710 | 3 | 0.11% | CPM | $0.34 | $0.00 | 65% | $0.22 | $0.60 | ||||
| Internet Boost | 34,091 | 607 | 1.78% | CPM | $0.40 | $0.00 | 65% | $0.26 | $8.86 | ||||
| Win Cash | 1 | 0 | 0.00% | CPM | $0.34 | $0.00 | 65% | $0.22 | $0.00 | ||||
| First | 345 | 2 | 0.58% | DEF | $0.00 | $0.00 | 100% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||
| Second | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | DEF | $0.00 | $0.00 | 100% | $0 | $0.00 | ||||
| ValueClick #07 | 5,770 | 15 | 0.26% | DEF | $0.00 | $0.00 | 100% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||
| ValueClick #03 | 5,765 | 27 | 0.47% | DEF | $0.00 | $0.00 | 100% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||
| Easily Default Ad | 103,724 | 458 | 0.44% | DEF | $0.00 | $0.00 | 100% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||
| ValueClick #04 | 5,884 | 18 | 0.31% | DEF | $0.00 | $0.00 | 100% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||
| ValueClick #01 | 5,825 | 14 | 0.24% | DEF | $0.00 | $0.00 | 100% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||
| ValueClick #05 | 5,844 | 10 | 0.17% | DEF | $0.00 | $0.00 | 100% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||
| ValueClick #06 | 5,848 | 18 | 0.31% | DEF | $0.00 | $0.00 | 100% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||
| ValueClick Default | 24,175 | 117 | 0.48% | DEF | $0.00 | $0.00 | 100% | $0.00 | $0.00 | ||||